Transgender men are men and transgender women are women. Out of love, fear, and concern for how society and workplace could marginalize, many parents of children with gender and sexual-orientation diversity oppose expression and remain in denial. For Aruna Rao, fully realizing her child’s gender, accepting to fully supporting it was a journey, which she describes in this second part of the recorded conversation between her and Kalki. I am Anya, co-founder, with my twin sister, Anvi Fenn, of Evergreen Story and we are so proud to associate with these two amazing women and their activism. Aruna Rao, Founder and Executive Director of Desi Rainbow Parents & Allies, the first of its kind to provide a supportive and affirming space for the South Asian LGBTQ+ people in America and their families to talk about family relationships and learn about gender identity and sexual orientation. And Kalki Subramaniam, Founder of The Sahodari Foundation, the pioneer organization in India giving a voice to the transgender community to promote social, political, and economic equity.